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Side note, I had the Tiguan in the US a few weeks ago. I have never returned a hire car before - this was a first.
It's the worst car I've ever driven, and i have some dogs in my time (thanks Hertz). Shocking car, i hated it with a passion and lasted 3 days before it was dropped off.
 
Side note, I had the Tiguan in the US a few weeks ago. I have never returned a hire car before - this was a first.
It's the worst car I've ever driven, and i have some dogs in my time (thanks Hertz). Shocking car, i hated it with a passion and lasted 3 days before it was dropped off.
That's interesting - assuming it's the new shape Tig that doesn't bode well for the new Q5 which will be on the same platform.
 
My wife is after a new car - and it seems to have come down to a Q5 (3.0 S line plus) or an Evoque (portfolio) both with black pack, panoramic roof, leather memory seats etc. I expect a bit of bias. What are the benefits to either and what would you order after having had your Q5 for a while (or possibly having had both)? Supplementary question - I believe a new Q5 isn't that far away. If I ordered a new Q5 now I'd be looking at 3 months build time. How long until the new Q5 is available to order?
you can't open the Pano roof on an Evoque.

for that reason alone i eliminated it from my short list.

i love my Pano roof and have it open about 10 months of the year on a regular basis.
 
you can't open the Pano roof on an Evoque.

for that reason alone i eliminated it from my short list.

i love my Pano roof and have it open about 10 months of the year on a regular basis.
Hang on, What??
You can't open the pano roof on an Evoque??
Surely not, that can't be right is it ????
it's fixed glass that doesn't open?? who would want it?
 
When I looked at the Macan you could option either a fixed glass roof or an opening one.
 
re CRV - That drove me nuts when I had one. What's the point of a sun roof if you cannot open it to get the open air experience. So, same as above, that was the LR off my list straight away.
 
re CRV - That drove me nuts when I had one. What's the point of a sun roof if you cannot open it to get the open air experience. So, same as above, that was the LR off my list straight away.
Well, you learn something new everyday, as they say
I've never considered speccing a pano roof, so hence never looked into the details,
But I'm gobsmacked that manufacturers make 'a sun roof' that doesn't open.
I get that the interior will be a lot brighter, but would also assume that just about everyone would want the facility to wind it back, Incredible, but obviously they sell.
 
and, I believe, the Macan runs the current Q5 platform. So the revised Q5 will be on a newer (better?) platform. That will be interesting.
I think the Macan is already on the new platform (which may explain why it's so good). That said I was wrong about the Tiguan!
 
This one I'm not sure of... the Macan is based on a very heavily modified version of the existing Q5 i "believe" the next Q5 will be based on the A4 platform.

"As mentioned above, the new Q5 will sit on the same mechanical platform as the latest Audi A4 (a larger version of which also forms the basis for the Audi Q7). That's likely to mean the new Q5 will be up to 100kg lighter than the current model, thanks to extensive use of lightweight materials."
 
Hang on, What?? You can't open the pano roof on an Evoque?? Surely not, that can't be right is it ???? it's fixed glass that doesn't open?? who would want it?
sadly it is right - the Pano roof on the Evoque does not open - not an inch.

it looks good, and i'd spec one if i was buying one, but the fact that it does not open means i would never buy one anyhow!

you can even over extend the opening of the Pano roof on the Q5 beyond the default if you turn the selector past the last notch when already fully open.

it causes a bit more wind noise over 50mph when over extended but around town it's brilliant fully open and provides a vast amount of sunshine and fresh air.

i wouldn't buy Q5 without a Pano roof, and i wouldn't buy an Evoque because the Pano roof does not open.
 
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This one I'm not sure of... the Macan is based on a very heavily modified version of the existing Q5 i "believe" the next Q5 will be based on the A4 platform.

"As mentioned above, the new Q5 will sit on the same mechanical platform as the latest Audi A4 (a larger version of which also forms the basis for the Audi Q7). That's likely to mean the new Q5 will be up to 100kg lighter than the current model, thanks to extensive use of lightweight materials."
A little reading makes me think you are correct - again doesn't sound like a good thing as the current A4/A5 range is getting panned for handling and feel. I was hoping it might bring the new look A4 interior, same great engines, Macan like handling and Q5 styling which would be a massive win for me. I'll reserve judgement though until I drive it!
 
Evoque pano roof is essential especially if you had the coupe like me,the rear side windows must of only been about 12 inches high and the rear window was like a letterbox,i specced pano roof and light headliner/pillars to make it as bright as possible.
just as well the roof didnt open it would of rattled and squeeked even more than it did!
 
re CRV - That drove me nuts when I had one. What's the point of a sun roof if you cannot open it to get the open air experience. So, same as above, that was the LR off my list straight away.
Sounds like the CRV has changed, I bought one of the first ones in '97 and it had a large glass sunroof, electrically operated, which opened fully but bizarrely was over the rear seat passengers. No wind deflector either so could not drive above 30mph with it open because of buffeting.
Good build quality in terms of panel fit and rattle free but very plastic trim. Under-bonnet layout impeccably tidy and the black crackle finish cam cover, a la Ferrari, a delight to look at. Not the kind of engine you normally get in a truck/SUV/4x4.
 
I think you'll find the mark 2 Q5 available sooner than July next year

I believe the car should be launched next month and available early 2017
 
I don't believe the SQ5 will be available Q1 2017 but I expect the 2.0TDI and 3.0TDI will be, however Audi launched both the A5 and S5 coupe together this week so I may be proved wrong

I wonder what % of Q5's are SQ5 as that will surely dictate how quickly the mk2 SQ5 is available

I'm working to replace our SQ5 before the Car Tax changes in April 2017 so am running out of time to place an order and take delivery of some of the competition if that's what we decide to go for
 
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