[SQ-Raphster]

If the UK Q5's are coming from Mexico I'll probably jump ship and order a Macan

Read my post above yours. They aren't coming from Mexico.

 

[Barbyboy]

Q7 growing on me as well although interior trim seems very plastic, has anyone driven a new Q7 that has a current Q5 that would care to comment on how the two compare

My SE is in Germany in December for training on the new Q5 and his suggestion is that the car will be available very shortly after

Have driven the new Q7 - IMO, more angular than outgoing model, interior is very classy, dash and button layouts excellent, although trackpad a good idea but very difficult - would work well in a lhd vehicle (if you're right-handed) but in a rhd vehicle where you have to use your left hand fingers to "draw" letters and numbers, it's very fiddly (unless you're left-handed of course). Ride is very comfortable throughout a large cabin with decent performance in standard 3.0 guise. Presume that the SQ7 must be a bit of a monster...
Negatives - wheel arch infills are just horrible - look very aftermarket. A pillars obstruct some viewing and overall size of it makes parking / finding a big enough parking space a challenge.
On balance, still prefer the Q5.

 

[JamesSQ]

Glad I've ordered current sq5

 

[jonathanbr]

Have driven the new Q7 - IMO, more angular than outgoing model, interior is very classy, dash and button layouts excellent, although trackpad a good idea but very difficult - would work well in a lhd vehicle (if you're right-handed) but in a rhd vehicle where you have to use your left hand fingers to "draw" letters and numbers, it's very fiddly (unless you're left-handed of course). Ride is very comfortable throughout a large cabin with decent performance in standard 3.0 guise. Presume that the SQ7 must be a bit of a monster...
Negatives - wheel arch infills are just horrible - look very aftermarket. A pillars obstruct some viewing and overall size of it makes parking / finding a big enough parking space a challenge.
On balance, still prefer the Q5.

Thanks BarbyBoy

Was at dealers at weekend and they had a nice ex demo Q7 S-Line with most of the toys I'd want and a good (21% saving) however the interior of new A4 seemed more substantial and of a higher quality than the Q7, adding in the fact that we don't really need anything Q7 sized, I will wait to see what Thursday brings with the new Q5 - I am also quite tempted with the new S4 Avant especially if the SQ5 isn't going to be launched in this first batch

 

[Sj1000]

Thanks BarbyBoy

Was at dealers at weekend and they had a nice ex demo Q7 S-Line with most of the toys I'd want and a good (21% saving) however the interior of new A4 seemed more substantial and of a higher quality than the Q7, adding in the fact that we don't really need anything Q7 sized, I will wait to see what Thursday brings with the new Q5 - I am also quite tempted with the new S4 Avant especially if the SQ5 isn't going to be launched in this first batch

The SQ5 will be launched in first batch,
It's the new RS Q5 (450bhp) which will come later.
As mentioned on another post, I wonder why the new Q5 will only lose around 100kg, when the Q7 lost 325kg, seems a bit un- proportional ?

 

[SQ-Raphster]

Well the Q5 is smaller then the Q7, so there are less parts to chop off, or substitute for a lighter material.

 

[Sj1000]

Well the Q5 is smaller then the Q7, so there are less parts to chop off, or substitute for a lighter material.

Well, yes, I understand the Q5 is smaller, but it's not only a third of the weight of a Q7, so I'm wondering why it's only losing a third of the weight the Q7 is losing?.
As I mentioned, it doesn't seem to add up 'proportionally'
For e.g.
If the old Q5 weighs (rough guess) say about 80% of the old Q7, why isn't it losing around 80% of the Q7's 325kg weight loss, or well over 200kg?

 

[SteveMak]

Well, yes, I understand the Q5 is smaller, but it's not only a third of the weight of a Q7, so I'm wondering why it's only losing a third of the weight the Q7 is losing?. As I mentioned, it doesn't seem to add up 'proportionally' For e.g. If the old Q5 weighs (rough guess) say about 80% of the old Q7, why isn't it losing around 80% of the Q7's 325kg weight loss, or well over 200kg?

Your reasoning is based on the (possibly incorrect) assumption that the current Q5 and previous generation Q7 were both constructed identically, that being that the Q7 is just a slightly enlarged Q5. That might not be the case. The current Q5 might be considerably more "efficient" in its design/build as compared to the previous gen. Q7, therefore, there are fewer opportunities for weight reduction. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate, without knowing how the two compared as baselines.

 

[Sj1000]

Your reasoning is based on the (possibly incorrect) assumption that the current Q5 and previous generation Q7 were both constructed identically, that being that the Q7 is just a slightly enlarged Q5. That might not be the case. The current Q5 might be considerably more "efficient" in its design/build as compared to the previous gen. Q7, therefore, there are fewer opportunities for weight reduction. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate, without knowing how the two compared as baselines.

Yes, I was sort of automatically assuming that, and as you say I'm probably wrong there.
I 'think' the Q5 is built on the same platform as A4 or A5, and maybe the Q7 has it's own behemoth like platform that was just crushingly heavy to support that large cabin.
All speculation for now, I'll get around to googling it or looking at the Q7 specs & pricing one fine day.
Was just hoping I could be lazy and someone on here would happen to know the reason

 

[jonathanbr]

The SQ5 will be launched in first batch,
It's the new RS Q5 (450bhp) which will come later.
As mentioned on another post, I wonder why the new Q5 will only lose around 100kg, when the Q7 lost 325kg, seems a bit un- proportional ?

Sadly no SQ5 launched this afternoon - 282BHP 3.0L Diesel is the most potent

 

[SteveMcB]

Looks pretty good IMO, the RS will be a real tempter no doubt, maybe I should start saving!

 

[jonathanbr]

Press release link for the new Q5 is here

https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/press-releases/even-sportier-and-more-multifaceted-the-second-generation-of-the-audi-q5-arrives-6819

 

[jonnyspin]

so "evolution, not revolution"... only interested if the sq5 is available before march, and the price hike isn't too ridiculous

 

[SteveMcB]

so "evolution, not revolution"... only interested if the sq5 is available before march, and the price hike isn't too ridiculous

One of the motoring mags estimate starting price of £39K so I'm guessing SQ5 will probably start in low to mid 50s. Once all the toys are added (looks like there will be quite a few to choose from) it could get pretty pricey, particularly if there are no discounts?

 

[jonnyspin]

hmmm Macan money! that's not going to work

 

[Stuartharmes]

I do like the look of the rear, I like the built in tail pipes

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/q5/97242/new-audi-q5-suv-official-pictures#1

 

[shibli]

Here you go:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/q5/86440/new-audi-q5-suv-breaks-cover-at-2016-paris-show

Interesting they are also introducing a 2WD version, will people go for this or stick with AWD?

As expected hybrid version will launch.

Prices from £39k so would expect this to fall into the new higher tax bands once all the options are added.

 

[jonathanbr]

Just configured a current SQ5 Plus to the same spec as ours and it is just under £56K, as you say by the time you've added air suspension, head up and virtual cockpit I think a new SQ5 will be close to £60K or slightly more

This is right into Macan pricing - however the Diesel S diesel runs the old 3L and when I was lent a car for a week I felt that the engine was the weak link compared to our SQ5 with the 8 speed gearbox

 

[jonnyspin]

problem is that it's Macan GTS money - and that is some car... Ok, petrol fuel consumption might be an issue.... but better residuals would ballance that.

 

[malph]

I doubt this new Q5 will have current Q5 owners rushing to dealers to "upgrade"......this owner certainly won't be. IMO, The new grille looks as awkward as the one on the Q3 when it was introduced. Hopefully there'll be a black pack option to maybe tone it down a bit. My jury is out until I see it in the flesh!