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I too have ordered the Drive select full package. After much digging and no specific answers from any source
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......I'm led to beleive that in order to have the dynamic setting then it must need the sports suspension.
I therefore think it doesn't matter if you order normal suspension because I think to have ADS damper control they will automatically fit sports suspension regardless.
So I've left my order alone. Fingers crossed.
BUT.....if you should happen to get an answer from your Dealer that blows my theory out of the water then PLEASE let me know :!:
I therefore think it doesn't matter if you order normal suspension because I think to have ADS damper control they will automatically fit sports suspension regardless.
So I've left my order alone. Fingers crossed.
BUT.....if you should happen to get an answer from your Dealer that blows my theory out of the water then PLEASE let me know :!:
Keen,
I found this explanation.....
"The CDC (continuous damping control) shock absorbers are hydraulic gas-filled
units. An electromagnetically triggered valve regulates the flow of hydraulic fluid
between the inner and outer shock-absorber tubes.
Using the Audi drive select characteristic map, the control unit adapts to the
driver's style and the condition of the road. If the driving style is sporty, the
computer selects small flow cross-sections and therefore high damping forces,
thus minimizing body movements; in urban traffic it selects large cross-sections
and low forces to boost comfort.
The CDC dampers are combined with "sports suspension springs". Because these
hi-tech dampers are able to realize lower damping forces than conventional
components, they allow the car to adopt the same smooth elegance as with the
standard suspension"
I found this explanation.....
"The CDC (continuous damping control) shock absorbers are hydraulic gas-filled
units. An electromagnetically triggered valve regulates the flow of hydraulic fluid
between the inner and outer shock-absorber tubes.
Using the Audi drive select characteristic map, the control unit adapts to the
driver's style and the condition of the road. If the driving style is sporty, the
computer selects small flow cross-sections and therefore high damping forces,
thus minimizing body movements; in urban traffic it selects large cross-sections
and low forces to boost comfort.
The CDC dampers are combined with "sports suspension springs". Because these
hi-tech dampers are able to realize lower damping forces than conventional
components, they allow the car to adopt the same smooth elegance as with the
standard suspension"
http://www.myaudiq5.com/index.php?/topic/993-memory-seats-and-folding-mirrors/
Confirmation....ADS comes with sports suspension.
Confirmation....ADS comes with sports suspension.
Sports suspension it is then!!
I still think so!
But just for a laugh I tried asking Audi UK the same question but the lady I spoke to was non the wiser
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But just for a laugh I tried asking Audi UK the same question but the lady I spoke to was non the wiser
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Out of interest, has anyone driven a Q5 with std suspension and one with sports suspension to be able to compare ride quality?
I have read about the supposed harshness of the ride with 20" rims, but won't this be even worse with the sports suspension?
I know that roll resistance and corner handling etc also comes into it, so I would be interested to hear of anyones experience of both.
My current fun run-around is a Corsa VXR which is Thorney Motorsport tuned, 230 bhp with sports suspension that is lowered and set up for fast road use.
With a car like this it does what it is intended to do. It is a pretty harsh ride but you can throw the car around bends or around a track and it sticks like glue.
For fun, this is the sort of car that satisfies the 'boy-racer' in me ( I won't say how old I am but it is a long time since I was a boy!) and a car like this needs sports suspension.
However the reason for me choosing a Q5 is to drive something that is more practical, more comfortable and a pleasurable drive.
I still like some power under the right foot so I have ordered the 211bhp petrol S-Line Special Edition S-Tronic, but I was a bit undecided about the Sports Suspension, especially as it is a no-cost option on the S-Line.
I decided against it initially, mainly because it is not lowered so it won't make it look any sportier, but also because I imagine I won't feel the need with a vehicle like this to be throwing it around bends etc. Oh and also so my wife won't have to wear a 'Sports Bra' every time I take her out in it!
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Will I miss the Sports Suspension if I don't have it or will I regret it if I do get it
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Dealers don't seem to have enough different models to try them all out.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
Biffo
I have read about the supposed harshness of the ride with 20" rims, but won't this be even worse with the sports suspension?
I know that roll resistance and corner handling etc also comes into it, so I would be interested to hear of anyones experience of both.
My current fun run-around is a Corsa VXR which is Thorney Motorsport tuned, 230 bhp with sports suspension that is lowered and set up for fast road use.
With a car like this it does what it is intended to do. It is a pretty harsh ride but you can throw the car around bends or around a track and it sticks like glue.
For fun, this is the sort of car that satisfies the 'boy-racer' in me ( I won't say how old I am but it is a long time since I was a boy!) and a car like this needs sports suspension.
However the reason for me choosing a Q5 is to drive something that is more practical, more comfortable and a pleasurable drive.
I still like some power under the right foot so I have ordered the 211bhp petrol S-Line Special Edition S-Tronic, but I was a bit undecided about the Sports Suspension, especially as it is a no-cost option on the S-Line.
I decided against it initially, mainly because it is not lowered so it won't make it look any sportier, but also because I imagine I won't feel the need with a vehicle like this to be throwing it around bends etc. Oh and also so my wife won't have to wear a 'Sports Bra' every time I take her out in it!
Will I miss the Sports Suspension if I don't have it or will I regret it if I do get it
Dealers don't seem to have enough different models to try them all out.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
Biffo
Quote...."I have read about the supposed harshness of the ride with 20" rims, but won't this be even worse with the sports suspension?"
Biffo,
I can't answer your other questions, but the reported harshness in the media that i have read refers to the ride of the 20" wheels with the sports suspension. Whether you get the same reported harshness with 20s and the now standard suspension I don't know. But I suspect it would be definately there to some people with 20s and sports suspension.
Hence why I've ordered 19" wheels with the full ADS package. Best of all worlds hopefully. Perhaps you should consider that as an option. Then you will be able to satisfy all your needs at the touch of a button
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But you are right it is a shame there is no way of testing before you buy. Even if you had to go to a central location to do it.
Biffo,
I can't answer your other questions, but the reported harshness in the media that i have read refers to the ride of the 20" wheels with the sports suspension. Whether you get the same reported harshness with 20s and the now standard suspension I don't know. But I suspect it would be definately there to some people with 20s and sports suspension.
Hence why I've ordered 19" wheels with the full ADS package. Best of all worlds hopefully. Perhaps you should consider that as an option. Then you will be able to satisfy all your needs at the touch of a button
But you are right it is a shame there is no way of testing before you buy. Even if you had to go to a central location to do it.
A few weeks ago I tried a 3.0 tdi SE with the Audi Drive Select and Damper Control at my local dealer. Normal mode rode just fine to me and as its my first 4WD large car I was quite impressed how car like it felt. So then we made adjustments on the screen for Sport Mode I think it was called to mimic the S-line suspension I have ordered. Did the usual foot down test round a traffic island etc and definately felt firmer with less body roll, and a little more of a jolt over the pot holes.
Based on this I have kept my order for the S-line the same with ADS and DC ( ie standard suspension and not sports ) giving me the same adjustments as the test car I drove, ( I hope ) I still cant get an answer from the dealer on what I would get if I did order the Sports set up. would that give firm sports suspension and then even firmer sportier adjustment? Who knows!!!
Hope this helps someone make there decision.
Based on this I have kept my order for the S-line the same with ADS and DC ( ie standard suspension and not sports ) giving me the same adjustments as the test car I drove, ( I hope ) I still cant get an answer from the dealer on what I would get if I did order the Sports set up. would that give firm sports suspension and then even firmer sportier adjustment? Who knows!!!
Hope this helps someone make there decision.
Hi CXdriver,
Imho I think the SE you drove would have had the sports suspension springs as per the extract i posted earlier in this thread taken from audimedia about the ADS setup.
Your test sounds good to me
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I don't think you would get anything different by ordering sports suspension with ADS!
Once you order ADS damper control you get the adjustable sports springs regardless of which model you choose
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Imho I think the SE you drove would have had the sports suspension springs as per the extract i posted earlier in this thread taken from audimedia about the ADS setup.
Your test sounds good to me
I don't think you would get anything different by ordering sports suspension with ADS!
Once you order ADS damper control you get the adjustable sports springs regardless of which model you choose
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Hi Josh,Quote...."I have read about the supposed harshness of the ride with 20" rims, but won't this be even worse with the sports suspension?"
Biffo,
I can't answer your other questions, but the reported harshness in the media that i have read refers to the ride of the 20" wheels with the sports suspension. Whether you get the same reported harshness with 20s and the now standard suspension I don't know. But I suspect it would be definately there to some people with 20s and sports suspension.
Hence why I've ordered 19" wheels with the full ADS package. Best of all worlds hopefully. Perhaps you should consider that as an option. Then you will be able to satisfy all your needs at the touch of a button![]()
But you are right it is a shame there is no way of testing before you buy. Even if you had to go to a central location to do it.
Yes you must be right. Looking back, the reports I read were done when the S-Lines had the sports suspension as std, so this must have been an issue then. That must be why they changed the S-Lines to have normal suspension as std, with the Sports suspension as a no-cost option, or to allow the benefits of the ADS system.
I must admit that the test drive I had was with 20" rims and std suspension and I felt the ride and handling was pretty good to be honest and it suited the vehicle.
I think that if the sports suspension was also lowered, it would have given the Q5 a 'sportier' stance which might have appealed but as it isn't I think I will stick with the 20" rims and std suspension as supplied on the S-Line special edition.
One reason for me getting the Q5 was to start getting into a more 'calm' approach to driving and I know that if I have the abilty to tweek the settings it won't be long before I have it permanently in the 'sport' mode and testing it to the limits around bends etc.
However it would have been interesting to have tried std and sports suspension as a direct comparison without the ADS.
Cheers
Biffo
Biffo,
I think you better buy one quick before that Q5S or RSQ5 appears at some point. Maybe next year
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You might be tempted :!:
http://tuning-fan.biz/rumor-audi-sq5-and-rsq5-sport-versions/
I think you better buy one quick before that Q5S or RSQ5 appears at some point. Maybe next year
http://tuning-fan.biz/rumor-audi-sq5-and-rsq5-sport-versions/
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Haha, No, I must resistBiffo,
I think you better buy one quick before that Q5S or RSQ5 appears at some point. Maybe next year![]()
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You might be tempted :!:![]()
http://tuning-fan.biz/rumor-audi-sq5-and-rsq5-sport-versions/
Anyway, I'd hate to think what the waiting time would be for one of those!!
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The worry about the 20" rims is misplaced imho
I have 20" off road rims, sports/sline suspension, and no dampers, drive select or any of that overpriced tat
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If you don't intend to drive through wastelands or rock strewn off road courses, which most of us don't, then go for the 20's and don't waste your cash on the rest - the drive is absolutely superb, never harsh, and the thing handles like a dream - you can really throw it into a bend, and the quattro grips and goes with no drama. It honestly corners like a low saloon car.
I think people get caught up on capabilities that the majority of us won't need. Am I going to be ramping my lovely new Q5 anywhere it can get scratched and bumped, i.e. off road? Hell no! So with that in mind I want a nice, consistent, reliable, comfy drive with excellent handling and cornering, which is exactly what I get with 20's and sports suspension.
I still maintain that drive select will get left in auto and untouched for 90% of the cars life after the initial 3 month 'got to play with everything' urge is gone...
Just my thoughts, we are all different
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I have 20" off road rims, sports/sline suspension, and no dampers, drive select or any of that overpriced tat
If you don't intend to drive through wastelands or rock strewn off road courses, which most of us don't, then go for the 20's and don't waste your cash on the rest - the drive is absolutely superb, never harsh, and the thing handles like a dream - you can really throw it into a bend, and the quattro grips and goes with no drama. It honestly corners like a low saloon car.
I think people get caught up on capabilities that the majority of us won't need. Am I going to be ramping my lovely new Q5 anywhere it can get scratched and bumped, i.e. off road? Hell no! So with that in mind I want a nice, consistent, reliable, comfy drive with excellent handling and cornering, which is exactly what I get with 20's and sports suspension.
I still maintain that drive select will get left in auto and untouched for 90% of the cars life after the initial 3 month 'got to play with everything' urge is gone...
Just my thoughts, we are all different
I have the Spec Edition with 20" and totally agree with the above !!!The worry about the 20" rims is misplaced imho
I have 20" off road rims, sports/sline suspension, and no dampers, drive select or any of that overpriced tat)![]()
If you don't intend to drive through wastelands or rock strewn off road courses, which most of us don't, then go for the 20's and don't waste your cash on the rest - the drive is absolutely superb, never harsh, and the thing handles like a dream - you can really throw it into a bend, and the quattro grips and goes with no drama. It honestly corners like a low saloon car.
I think people get caught up on capabilities that the majority of us won't need. Am I going to be ramping my lovely new Q5 anywhere it can get scratched and bumped, i.e. off road? Hell no! So with that in mind I want a nice, consistent, reliable, comfy drive with excellent handling and cornering, which is exactly what I get with 20's and sports suspension.
I still maintain that drive select will get left in auto and untouched for 90% of the cars life after the initial 3 month 'got to play with everything' urge is gone...
Just my thoughts, we are all different.....![]()
Fair point and as you say we are all different. It's usually me
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For me I'm moving oop north to the Yorkshire Dales or Cumbria (yet to be decided) in the not too distant future, where the roads are not perfectly smooth and wide. I pop up fairly regularly and beleive me when you meet a tractor on some of those roads your only option is to crawl up a high grassy verge or reverse looking for a gap in the very long stone wall
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My wife is not the best passenger. So flexability with the suspension will be an advantage and a higher tyre side wall will keep my alloys looking good for longer.
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For me I'm moving oop north to the Yorkshire Dales or Cumbria (yet to be decided) in the not too distant future, where the roads are not perfectly smooth and wide. I pop up fairly regularly and beleive me when you meet a tractor on some of those roads your only option is to crawl up a high grassy verge or reverse looking for a gap in the very long stone wall
My wife is not the best passenger. So flexability with the suspension will be an advantage and a higher tyre side wall will keep my alloys looking good for longer.
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