[Mike L]

Hi Everyone,

I'll start with a "scenario" then get to my question.....

I've been gentle with my car for over a month now (3.0TDi SE with S-tronic box - NO STEERING WHEEL PADDLES) and have over 1200 miles on the clock, so I've been able to be a bit more aggressive with the throttle (especially when some idiot in his pimped Corsa decides he wants to "take me on"

!!).
Now, generally I don't rise to this sort of situation, but on the odd occasion that I have, I have found that I need to be gentle with the throttle until i feel the car has fully engaged the gear..... then blow them off

However, I've also found the same when entering a roundabout..... See a gap... put the foot down... a slight pause... then woosh... there's the power, a fair old shunt from the gearbox and I'm catapulted forward and gone. (All other gear changes are silky smooth, so once I'm moving, there are no gear box issues

).

Now, obviously I don't want to stress the box, or look like I'm driving like a hooligan, so (finally the question...) Has anyone else had a similar experience and has anyone got a suggestion on how to avoid the sudden surge / shunt from the gearbox ??? (Other than NOT putting my foot down

) I've tried using the S-mode which helps a little, as 1st gear is kept in longer, but I'd still appreciate any other feedback / suggestions.

Cheers,

Mike.

 

[Guest]

Mike,

My 2.0 tdi stronic also suffers from this....I had the same issue with my previous car A3 cab 2.0 tdi stronic...

When i come to roundabouts i tend to paddle shift down or S mode helps as you mentioned.... Im not aware of a fix, just adapted driving to suit, it is annoying though..

Mark

 

[Bill]

Mike my 2.0TDI S-Tronic does the same but in all fairness to Audi the VW DSG boxes do the same, I have had two 6 speed and one seven speed DSG fitted in previous VW cars and they were all the same, you will get used to how to handle this and as you indicated once on the move in the higher gears it's perfect, small price to pay for a wonderful economical gearbox.

 

[guyguyke]

that's why I long delayed my switch to Diesel-motoring
due to the higher torque AND shorter RPM-range, all diesels urge in the three first gears, either manual or auto
with an auto box, this "lauch"-effect (in spite of the first two gears are often limited in torque to spare the mechanics..) can be funny the first times, but it is indeed not that comfortable in normal gentle use (mainly for the passengers !)
with a manual, you can start in second gear if your give enough gas

 

[Guest]

I suspect this thread on the OzAudi forum describes a very similar thing. If so, it may be an S-Tronic characteristic.

 

[Mike L]

Thanks guys for the replies

.
And... yes, the OzAudi link touches on the subject. I don't see it as a "flat spot" in the power, more like the clutch dropping in late, then too quickly if i "mash the throttle" to quote our Antipodean friends.

Looks like i'll have to drive around the issue...... Similar to my last car. I had a Lexus RX 300 and i had to be gentle with the loud pedal there too until the engine / ECU had realised i was really wanting to go for a fast take off.

Again, one of the Ozzy forum users refered to getting the car to creep a bit and then going for it, which worked for me too (previous car), but i have to wonder how Audi got the 0-60 time. Did they just bury the throttle and forget about the stress put on the system !!!..... of course they did

Looks like i'll just have to take everyone (Corsa guys) "by surprise" then.... Slow start... then BANG.... gone...

Cheers,

Mike.

 

[kaygee]

Hi

Must admit- i am not a major fan of the dsg, as i find it very jerky at low speeds and general town driving.
My friend owns my local audi dealer and i mentioned it to him- he said use the paddles when required.
This has,for me, totally transformed the car- when coming to roundabouts i treat it like a manual box and knock down gears. i actually find myself using the paddles 90% of the time- unless i am on a motorway.
i have also had an ecu upgrade that severely reduces the jerkiness- it was a special bespoke system that is designed specifically for the Q5- it was ?600 installed, but raises BHP to nearly 300 and still gives high 30's mpg.
cheers

 

[Guest]

Hi
My friend owns my local audi dealer and i mentioned it to him- he said use the paddles when required.
This has,for me, totally transformed the car- when coming to roundabouts i treat it like a manual box and knock down gears. i actually find myself using the paddles 90% of the time- unless i am on a motorway.

It sounds like the problem the OP is experiencing is the 'box not being in the correct gear. As you slow for a roundabout / junction you're probably in 5th or 6th gear. The DSG transmission (as we all know

) will already have another gear selected, and in this case, as you are slowing down, will have either 4th or 5th ready to go. If you don't come to a complete stop, then decide to accelerate quickly, you've effectively "confused" the gearbox, as you're now slow enough for 2nd or 3rd, but it's not got either of those ready, so the delay you notice is the gearbox having to select the correct gear.

This is why kaygee's technique works - by downshifting to a lower gear, it's very likely the gearbox will have the correct gear pre-selected for your quick get away.

I had a DSG A3 before, and it behaved exactly the same.

Cheers,
Phil.
P.S. Hi from a newbie

 

[guyguyke]

I long delayed the replacement of my A4 because I did not faith the multitronic to be continued along the S-tronic
when I decided to switch to a Q5, the first negative comments were already there, and it ended with a manual version
I'm now wondering if the multitronic is not a better choice for our saturated roads... with no shifts at all, the ride is always smooth ! Now I experienced my first diesel, I'm happy with a manual box : it's perfect adapted to the traffic