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Hi all!

Nice forum you guys have! Im Tim and I currently own and drive a VW mkV R32 for the last 3yrs but as time has past Im now married for the last year and now the wifey is pregnant!


So therefore I have come to the conclusion a 3.2L 5door hatchback with returns of 23-27mpg and a road tax bill of 460quid isn't the best way to go about starting a young family especially in these economical times. Only driving like my grandad do i ever see 30mpg or a little more...

I am currently browsing the Audi range, and was interested in the A3 sportsback, A4 Avant and the Q5. But I have now written off the A3 sportsback as I have owned a A3 8years ago and for 5years gave me a lot of issues before parting with it for the R32.

My questions for you guys are:

1. Which is more practical out of the two? A4 Avant or the Q5, in terms of boot space and interior space for a young family with a newborn on the way. (i really should just pop into the dealership lol)

2. What are the running costs like? in terms of road tax for all the diesel engine range and also fuel costs.
( I'm leaning very much to the 3.0TDi engine in both Audi models, so long as its 30mpg+ and a cheaper road tax than the R32 )

3. I am looking in the 2nd hand market and would like to know how well a Q5 holds value? The A4 Avant I know depreciates very fast, which is also a cost I'd like to try avoid if a Q5 holds better value over time.

4. Has anyone had problems with the panoramic roof? As it is a spec I will be looking out for, as I have never owned a car with a sunroof before yet.

5. Lastly is there any advice of what to look out for in a Q5 before purchasing? Any known niggles or problems?

Many Thanks! I look forward to your knowledgable answers and XP of ownership with the Q5 range.

Tim
 

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I think the A4 Avant will have a longer boot space?

Q5 should hold value better, my last one only dropped £5k in 2 years?

Got the Pan roof this time, no problems but a bit noisy opening (rubbers sticking?), but then only had it a month.
 
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Welcome to the forums. I'd think the A4 estate has a slightly longer boot but of course the Q5 will have a taller boot which can be more practical.

q5 residuals are very strong at the moment, you'll pay a lot more for one than an A4 and if you can wait you might as well order a new one with 10% discount, they just brought out a facelift A4 so one 12 months old should have depreciated quite a bit.

I'd also recommend testing the 2.0tdi 170hp it may be fast enough for you and will save you a lot of money.

In terms of niggles make sure you get a spare wheel with your Q5! They cost £400+ from Audi aftercare. there are very few cases of any faults with the Q5, the main issue seems to be the auto box so test the hell out of this before you buy one. I went for the 2.0 tdi 143 manual after owning many Audi's, I wanted to be a little frugal (after owning a Q7) and I think the Q5 is a good compromise.
 

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I have the A4 s-line saloon and the Q5 s-line plus both 2.0 TD 170hp road tax on the Q5 is cheaper, Q5 is bigger inside which suits me fine as I am 6ft 4" the specs for both cars are quite similar, wheel base different, overall length within mm, mirror and body widths again within mm. The ground clearence and overhaul height makes the Q5 stable, fuel consumption is good also.
 

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Welcome to the forums. I'd think the A4 estate has a slightly longer boot but of course the Q5 will have a taller boot which can be more practical.

q5 residuals are very strong at the moment, you'll pay a lot more for one than an A4 and if you can wait you might as well order a new one with 10% discount, they just brought out a facelift A4 so one 12 months old should have depreciated quite a bit.

I'd also recommend testing the 2.0tdi 170hp it may be fast enough for you and will save you a lot of money.

In terms of niggles make sure you get a spare wheel with your Q5! They cost £400+ from Audi aftercare. there are very few cases of any faults with the Q5, the main issue seems to be the auto box so test the hell out of this before you buy one. I went for the 2.0 tdi 143 manual after owning many Audi's, I wanted to be a little frugal (after owning a Q7) and I think the Q5 is a good compromise.
I have been told by my VAG specialists that the 2.0tdi engines are not all that reliably after so many miles, on the otherhand the 3.0tdi engines have been around for decades since the 90s and have been more reliable than these new 2.0tdi (which i have owned one with many problems in the past)

also another reason why i can pick a 3.0tdi over a 2.0tdi is because my very kind parents have offered to pay the difference of a almost new bluemotion golf when my wife parts exchange her car soon. so with a bluemotion in the stable i think the golf will be the daily, and the Q5 more of a weekend treat or even mid-week treat


but yes you are right, Q5 are still very expensive especially for a car of 4-5years old now, and i gathered they hold better value than the A4 but i just wanted the reassurance.

so how much is the road tax for a 140bhp, 170bhp and the 230bhp diesels?
 

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Strange you have problems with the 2.0TDI, my sons run the 140 and 170hp 2.0TDI golfs VERY hard and never had any issues arround 80K miles on them. My 2006 A4 has NEVER had any problems, and I dont expect any from the Q5.
Roadtax for the 2.0TD manual is 161 pounds.
You will find all the emitions for all engine in the Audi site and then cross reference on the GOV site for road tax.

All cars dealer serviced.
 

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Hi Tim,

I've got the 3.0Tdi and i'm averaging around 32mpg. Road tax is £250 a year, which is almost half that on the S5 I had. The 3.0Tdi is a great engine, and the power delivery and torque are great - not as fierce as a 4.2 V8, but not too far off the mark in the family compromise replacement :)

I've also go the panoramic roof and no faults to report on it - my 8 month year old daughter loves it and loves looking up to the trees when its had the sun visor retracted.

I looked at the A4 avant as well, but it actually didn't feel that much different inside to the S5 I had, and the length, width etc are pretty much identical to the Q5. Q5 feels much bigger inside, and the driving position is great.

With a little one, you will fill your car to capacity every-time, no matter how much space you have! The Q5 seems the best though, and if you get the dog guard in the back, you can load the boot upto the roof without fear of the boot contents going over the back seat or baby!

Storage pack is probably worth looking out for in the spec, as is the bench seat plus if you can get it - just gives you more inside spacing options.

I would also recommend getting a rubberised boot liner for putting the dirty wheeled pram in the boot - you can get one that has a material extension that protects your rear bumper from scratches (will happen a lot putting a pram in and out of the boot)

Make sure your roof rails are in the boot of the car when you get one (as they are part of the standard spec) - the roof rails should also have a storage bag as well - black with audi rings on.

Oh and if you get an isofix base for the car seat, its make the whole baby seat in and out of car experience a lot less painful!

I think thats about it from my perspective :)

Good luck!
 

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Just got my first road tax renewal, £210 pa for the 2.0 TDI 170 S-Tronic.

I too looked at the A4 last year as we were expecting our first child but choose the Q. Wife loves the raised driving position and we both find it eaiser to drive than our previous A3.

Drove it to the South of France last summer and it easily accomodated all our luggage, inc. buggy, cot and all the other paraphanelia babies come with. Have covered 6k so far in just under 12 months and have not had a single issue to date and average about 38mpg.

A facelift is due in Sept so 2nd hand residuals will fall a little but IMO not by much.
 

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Road tax on my 2.0tdi 143 is £165 so not a huge saving over the auto but every little helps.
 
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