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Has anyone used a cradle adapter with the Low Prep system on the I-Phone 3GS? If there is even one available
 
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I understand that there is, or should I say will be, a cradle available to fit the iPhone 3GS.

The part number is 8P0 051 435 HC and it will fit onto the Gen 3 Bluetooth (low) adaptor plate which is located under the centre arm rest. The cost of the cradle will be around ?98 (GBP). The cradle will charge the iPhone and provide an enhanced signal using the car?s telephone antenna. It doesn?t provide a direct connection for the audio signals ? this is still done via a Bluetooth link.

I believe a few of these cradles may have been sold a few months ago but for some reason the stocks have been recalled by the manufacturer (Paragon) in Germany. I have been trying to purchase one of these cradles for the past three months from my local Audi dealers ? each time I?m informed they are ?on back order? and thus they cannot place an order for me. I have even cross-checked with Audi UK?s Customer Services department regarding the lack of availability.
The latest estimate I received (early in Dec) was that it ?may be available in February 2010?. However having received similar possible availability dates previously I?ll only be convinced when I actually see one.

As I said above no one has actually confirmed why the cradles have been recalled. I suspect it may be due to Apple changing the charging system between previous iPhone models and the iPhone 3GS.

I took delivery of my S-Line Q5 (my first Audi) last April. I have been delighted with most aspects of the car but find the ?roundabout problem? with the GPS very frustrating given the prestige nature of the car. I did note on this most useful site that a potential cure may now be available in the form of a firmware update (not maps). Perhaps it?s time for a call to my dealer?

Audi do seem to be extremely slow to produce cradles for the Gen 3 Bluetooth system. I realise that it would impossible for them (via Paragon) to produce an adaptor for the myriad of mobile phones around. However rSAP connectivity is supported by many Nokia & HTC telephones and is the enhanced connectivity system provided by the Bluetooth (high) Audi factory telephone installation.

When my Q5 arrived I had an HTC Orbit2 mobile telephone at the time and I tried unsuccessfully to purchase an rSAP adaptor. Frustratingly the only ones available were for Gen 2 Bluetooth fitments and, to this day, I don?t think a Gen 3 rSAP adaptor has ever been released despite promises from Audi.

It would be great if I could actually purchase a cradle before my mobiles are obsolete. Perhaps one day Audi will oblige


All I can suggest is that iPhone 3GS users lobby Audi about the current lack of availability of the Gen 3 cradle. Hopefully this may have the desired effect.....
 

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Thanks for the info JW

I'll contact my dealer in Feb for an update.
 

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I really do not see why a craddle should be used, as every good GSM with BT perfectly works from your pocket, without the quibbling of install/desinstall the phone on the craddle
I would only use a craddle if the phone always remains in the car (and with a second SIMcard on the same callnumber)
I suspect Audi only wanting to make money with these craddles : they are out of fashion...
my wife and myself are using each our own phone, they are both linked to the carphone and connect automatically without problem, even if both are open (then the last phone in use connects)
 
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In reference to the comment about the Satnav issue I can confirm there is a fix and mine was updated on Christmas Eve. So far all appears well!

I also think there is no real need for a cradle for the iPhone. My iPhone 3G works pretty good with BT and I am now using the very cool voice dialling feature - very useful as I have about 700 contacts.
 
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Whilst I agree with guyguyke & Gam about the convenience of Bluetooth connectivity with a GSM telephone still in a pocket it does sound like they are in a far more fortunate position than I am with respect to good GSM signal strengths. I regularly do a long run across the country and there are certain stretches of road where the O2 signal strength drops and this results in many dropped calls.


Hence the reason why I?m keen to see if a coupling to the cars built-in aerial cures this frustrating problem.

Furthermore it?s useful on these longer journeys to ?top the phone battery up?. I currently do this by plugging a lead into the base of the iPhone and resting the phone in the cubbyhole under the arm rest. Being able to plug the phone into a cradle which would secure it from rattling around, charge it and, hopefully, provide a stronger signal would be great.

For shorter journeys both my wife & I do use our respective mobiles in a similar mode to guyguyke & Gam (i.e. in pocket / bag) and this proves absolutely fine given the adequate local signal strength.

Thanks to Gam for confirming that the annoying Sat Nav issue appears to be fixed.
 

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I want to use the cradle to boost the signal. I regularly use 3G on the iphone for internet applications and find the O2 coverage poor in a lot of areas.
 
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You might want to try turning off 3G when in the car as I have found you get much better phone use and service on O2. For example when iPhone set on 3G I often miss calls as the phone does not always ring and it can take ages for an outgoing call to connect - not an issue when on normal phone network!
 

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I'm now seeking how to get rid of the (unused) plate in the armrest
my dealer says it is not easy... and would let it in place
I read in another forum that a simplified version of the BT-device is available at a fraction of the cost until now...
 
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I?ll try GAM?s suggestion about turning off 3G on my next trip along the roads which tend to drop the O2 signal.

However I have experienced these call drop-outs for several years, using many different handsets and certainly well before I had my telephone data-enabled. Also the problems always happen along the same section of road.
As such I do suspect that the problem is due to poor O2 signal coverage.

I just wish that O2 would install a few additional repeater masts...


GAM, could you confirm if the Sat Nav update has also fixed the poor street name pronunciation issue or does it just fix the ?roundabout exit? problem?
 

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Your right about the 3G. I only turn it on for internet use as when just using as phone it always dropped the call after about 5 mins with the 3G turned on.
 
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iPhone 3GS cradle : now available


Great news for anyone waiting for the Gen3 iPhone 3GS cradle ? they are finally available.

Having checked with my Audi garage today I was pleasantly surprised to hear the cradles were now shipping to the UK. I was even more delighted to be told that, due to a customer cancellation, I could immediately have one of the two cradles they had just received in.

I can confirm that the Audi part number is: 8PO.051.435.HC and this fits both the iPhone 3G & the iPhone 3GS.

My initial feedback on the cradle: -
It fits very quickly onto the factory Bluetooth adaptor plate located under the centre arm rest. Fitting my iPhone 3GS to the cradle was very simple and the mechanism securely held it in place. Removing the phone is equally simple by pressing a release button.
The cradle has a single PTT (Push To Talk) button on it.
 

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Thanks for the info, i'm off to the dealers this weekend!
 
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A further update on the iPhone cradle: -

I made my long cross-UK journey a couple of days ago. Whilst travelling I was involved in several telephone calls including an extended one that lasted 50 minutes in duration. I experienced no dropped calls at all. Furthermore the signal strength never seemed to drop below 2 bars (out of 5) even through the area which had previously resulted in many dropped calls.

All in all it does seem that the cars external aerial (via the cradle) is providing a much welcome boost to the sometimes poor O2 signal.


I had intended to switch off the 3G on my iPhone before starting the trip but I forgot since I generally leave it permanently on. Unlike others I never seem to suffer dropped calls which I can attribute to the 3G service being left switched on.
On arrival it was great to unclip the iPhone from the cradle with its battery 100% charged.


Strangely the Push to Talk (PTT) button on the cradle is illuminated but, unless I?m being really stupid, it doesn?t actually seem to do anything.
 
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